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Post by Metus on Nov 29, 2018 7:59:18 GMT -5
Tournament Reviews This template is to be used for all Tournament reviews. It is the same form that staff uses. Please copy and paste the code from the bottom into the appropriate match review thread that has been created by the staff. Please do not create your own thread. You cannot review a thread that your character participated in. For every knowledgeable and well written review, you will gain 20 munny to the character account you post the review with. You may only post one review per thread. Please be sure that your review is detailed and informed. Site Rules still apply to raid reviews, so be polite and respectful. Everything a member posts is to be read as constructive criticism and is not to be taken as an attack. Any issues should be reported directly to a staff member. Damage Inflicted and Taken: What powers were used and what damage taken should be reviewed here, as well as the effects of any powers used. Basically, which side dealt more and which side took more damage. Key Points:- Overall damage inflicted
- Strategic use of items
- Overall combative dominance
Questions to Ask Yourself:How much damage would that skill have inflicted on the target? Would a skill be super effective against the character, such as using a potion against someone inflicted with zombie. Who caused the most damage? Which side would have probably won the fight. Skill and Style: This isn't for it being well written, but the creative style and effect of their strategy and if it also had a imaginative visual. Key Points:- In-Character Combat Style
- Skills used wisely
- Use of weaknesses and strength
Questions to Ask Yourself: Did the member stick to their character's fighting style? Did they set them up in a way that would have been hard to defend against? Did that character use their unique/individual fighting style, or 'X-factor' to their best advantage? Did they use their known written powers in such a way that they normally wouldn't use them? Did someone feel out-of-character? Who controlled the battle? Who was more dominant with how the flow of battle went against the other? Did a character seem to be reacting to attacks more than being the one to inflict them? Did one player keep the other on their toes more than the other? Did one character seemed more defensive, calm and collected than the other? Did one person execute an ingenious strategy to win? Did one character identify the other's weaknesses or use their opponent's strength against them? Did a character start at a loss, only to turn it around and gain the flow and control of the battle in their favor? Did a character seem to just use attacks and throw them at the opponent, or used them in a way that was hard for the opponent to fight/defend/counter against? Descriptive Writing and Sportsmanship: How well did the member write and describe their actions and surroundings. This also includes if a character did not explain themselves or were not justified in their movements or dodging. Key Points:- Stayed In-Character
- Easy to Understand
- Overall fairness
Questions to ask yourself: Did they justify certain movements and their character's fight style? Whether their post was short or long, where they able to explain their actions to the reader and get their point across? Did you question any actions or abilities a character did make? How well did you understand their writing? Did they dodge an attack that should have otherwise harmed them? Did they ignore or shrugged off attacks or write that the attacks had no effect on them? Did they seem to know something about their opponent that otherwise their character wouldn't know? Did a character do something you felt was not fair or use a power not listed/misuse a power listed on their application? Who had the best sportsmanship, and was fair to the other team in taking damage? Did someone take a hit that they probably could have dodged? Did a team take hits that they knew they couldn't dodge realistically? Template [font size="4"][b]Damage Inflicted and Taken:[/b][/font] [blockquote]Reasoning goes here, please show your work on how you made your decision.[/blockquote] [div align="center"][******Winner******][/div] [b][font size="4"]Skill and Style:[/font][/b] [blockquote]Reasoning goes here, please show your work on how you made your decision.[/blockquote] [div align="center"][******Winner******][/div] [b][font size="4"]Descriptive Writing and Sportsmanship:[/font][/b] [blockquote]Reasoning goes here, please show your work on how you made your decision.[/blockquote] [div align="center"][******Winner******][/div] [div align="center"][font size="4"][b]Match Winner:[/b][/font] [font size="5"]***** Winner ******[/font][/div]
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Post by Alexander Sorel on Dec 10, 2018 2:04:33 GMT -5
Damage Inflicted and Taken: Nils and Beatrix were definitely on the offensive for this fight. Aside from a couple slip ups, it seemed at times that Ramza and Crowe were really just hanging on. Nils in particular seemed to really bang up Crowe, and he definitely started bringing some serious firepower near the end. Ramza & Crowe did their best, I can tell, but they couldn't really keep up, and I think had this been allowed to fight to conclusion, Nils & Beatrix would've won this one. [******NILS/BEATRIX******] Skill and Style: This however, I have to give to Ramza & Crowe. They were definitely more of a team than Nils & Beatrix. While there was some support, it was easier to imagine Ramza & Crowe working together and acting as one, their abilities augmenting each other, rescuing each other, and understanding that they were a team. I loved seeing uses of Ramza's squire abilities for simple counters, and it was fun reading Nils just be a full on Tank monster. Ultimately though, I found myself more impressed with Ramza & Crowe's teamwork. [******RAMZA/CROWE******] Descriptive Writing and Sportsmanship: We'll discount the fact that both sides had a skip. That being said, I really didn't need to reread certain parts, most everyone was pretty clear in what they were doing.
Most everyone seemed to stay in character. Nils seemed to have a moment of bloodthirst surfacing when he was ganged up that didn't really seem to align with the personality I read. I also noticed that when Crowe's Aeroga was reflected back at her, I didn't see any acknowledgment in their post. I'm not sure if that was intentional or not, but regardless, it's ignoring something directly targeting them.
It wasn't just their team though, I noticed near the end that Nils used his Wave of Mutilation to chain two spells together. Now, it says in the ability; Extremely powerful magics such as Ecliptic Meteor or beneficial magics such as Protect or Shell cannot be channeled in this way. This is all well and good, except the two abilities he chained were Ultima and Meteor. These are two of his most powerful magics and are end game Final Fantasy spells. If these don't fall under "extremely powerful magics," I'm not sure what does. So with all of this in mind, I ultimately have to give this to Ramza & Crowe. [******RAMZA/CROWE******] Match Winner: ***** RAMZA/CROWE ******
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Post by Gyun on Dec 12, 2018 8:12:25 GMT -5
Damage Inflicted and Taken: Due to excellent use of defensive abilities there was not a whole lot of damage going out over the course of the fight, but it was clear the Beatrix and Nil had an overwhelming aggressive advantage in the fight. The majority of Crowe's actions were used for buffing, and due to the pressure kept on them by the opposing team she didn't personally get a chance to put them to much use. The pressure was so strong that Crowe felt the need to use a defensive limit break. Ramza and crow had good teamwork, but didn't have the opportunity to exercise it in a meaningful, offensive way because it took them too long to build up their defenses, and even with that Nil and Beatrix were still putting out damage. Ramza used the opportunities given by Crowe well, but even then he was forced to take the assaults of both Beatrix and Nil head on, and while they may have pulled briefly ahead when everything was ready, I feel they would have been quickly overwhelmed had the fight continued to its conclusion.
[******Beatrix/Nil******] Skill and Style: This category was a tough call. Beatrix and Nil fought skillfully and appropriately with their available movesets, but so did Ramza and Crowe. I feel like while Beatrix and Nil clearly controlled the fight, that was partially due to a power advantage rather than a skill gap. Ramza and Crowe both displayed excellent and creative use of their skills to stall the overwhelming incoming damage from the opposing team. Great attempts were made on the part of Ramza to counter incoming attacks and help control the flow of battle. I can't help but feel that if they'd had more power reliably available to them they could have used that skill and creativity displayed to overcome the oncoming tide.
[******Crowe/Ramza******] Descriptive Writing and Sportsmanship: Beatrix is the star of this category, her writing was excellent, descriptive, I could picture everything she was doing and had no problems with any of her actions. I didn't have a moment where I thought "Well that's a little weird." or "Boy I sure wish I knew what that looked like." No complaints there. Nil and Ramza both worked equally well in descriptive writing and while I feel they both lag slightly behind Beatrix in that respect I was more than happy with what I was reading. With Crowe however, while I have seen the film from which she originates I have not played Brave Exvius and I shouldn't have to. Every time she used a reinforcement ability other than her limit break I found myself thinking that I really wish I knew what that looked or sounded like.
There were a couple of real sticking points for for me in regard to the match's sportsmanship from an OOC perspective. The first was Ramza's use of Stone Throw to detonate Holy early. This is not listed as a use of the ability in the profile and I have no reason to believe that even being imbued with magic they'd be able to do so, in addition, I have been told the ruling is that each stone throw counts as an action, meaning he dodged, used three actions, then countered, for a total of five actions. I feel a better use, a more reasonable one, would have been to go for the eyes or the arm with it, throw off the spell's targeting as they are explicitly used to harass and otherwise control opponent behavior.
The second was Nil's use of Ecliptic Meteor at the end of the fight. As written, if the spells Ultima or Meteor are 'Cast' it locks out use of Ecliptic Meteor. Wave of mutilation was used to produce both of these spells, and is explicitly written as a doublecast and not a spell-like ability. I don't have a problem with Meteor and Ultima being cast through wave of mutilation itself, because they are both mechanically treated as tier three (heavy) spells rather than specialty magic, and are not what I would consider to be 'true' versions of those spells, but imitations. I'm given to understand the player was under different impressions about Wave of Mutilation via discussions with staff and it needs to be clarified in the profile.
Crowe did not seem to properly acknowledge the function of reflect, which as listed in Beatrix's profile seems to be to reduce the spell's damage tier and bounce it back to the source. Aeroga would not detonate on it, it would move back to her and detonate on her instead of the intended location but due to confusion from the post I'm going to assume this was simply unclear writing on her part and she acted accordingly.
Nil's behavior in the thread is out of line with the personality as listed in the profile which is portrayed as meek, but it is in line with what was displayed in the previous tournament thread and I feel it was appropriately in character, clearly intended to be a character trait and should also be clarified in the profile. Both sides had failings but I definitely had more fun reading Beatrix and Nil's posts and I do feel like there's a slight imbalance in fairness due to Crowe's mistake, and with both sides have used abilities outside their listed used in profiles, so I have to give this category to Beatrix and Nil.
[******Beatrix/Nil******] Match Winner: ***** Beatrix/Nil ******
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Post by Mogrid on Dec 14, 2018 11:24:18 GMT -5
Damage Inflicted and Taken: Once again, Beatrix and Nil are powerhouses. Ramza and Crowe were on the defensive for most of the match, and when they weren't their spells and attacks tended to not be quite as strong or sure. Of note, most of Crowe's buffs werent as effective when she didn't get much chance to capitalize on them herself. Ramza got off an Ultima, but unlike Nil's, Ramza's spell isn't noted to be unblockable. More on Nil later. Some of Nil's attacks were negated or reduced, but Beatrix was nearly allowed to just run roughshod over the battlefield. [******Nil/Beatrix******] Skill and Style: Everyone in the thread was sticking to how previous threads have gone. Ramza and Beatrix, the only two whose canon I'm familiar with, also stuck to their respective styles. Beatrix was a (sometimes literal) lightning bruiser, dealing out fierce and swift justice to her opponents. Ramza was a capable harrier, making sure that no one had time to rest on their laurels and supporting Crowe to ensure she was kept in fighting form as well. Overall, I feel like this may have been a losing strategy given his opponents, but it was very much in keeping with his paradigm. Crowe and Nil kept to their established styles as well, Crowe's supportive and opportunistic, Nil's brutal without quite crossing into berserker territory. There's a little bit of confusion regarding Nil's style not matching his personality provided in his profile, which is what I have to go on in this situation. [******Ramza/Crowe******] Descriptive Writing and Sportsmanship: Once more, all of the participants were extremely well written and it was generally clear what everyone was doing at any given moment. The biggest points of contention here bar-none are the only criticisms I feel can be levied here fairly, and all but one were points that Gyun brought up. Crowe's style was a little short on narrative details so it was harder to see what her actions looked like, but I consider this a somewhat minor nitpick in the grand scheme of things. She missed her spell bouncing off of reflect rather than merely fizzling, but both teams seemed to take that in stride. Which leaves Rock Throw, the Ultimas, and Ecliptic Meteor. Rock throw is, as has been mentioned, something I feel Ramza should consider curtailing a bit in PvP threads like this. Its extreme versatility is fun and thematic for Ramza, who is in his source material extremely versatile, but as was pointed out in other reviews about both this ability and other things, what makes for a fun and thematic character in the source might come off as a smidge unsportsmanlike in a PvP thread like this one, where it's not just that Ramza is using his resources cleverly (in a way that the GM in me would have responded to with 'Make me an attack roll at -4", mind) but that he's explicitly using a vaguely defined ability in a way that could be potentially frustrating for his opponents. That said, I feel like as-written Ecliptic Meteor should not have been a legal move when Nil cast it. In the profile, the ability explicitly calls out Ultima and Meteor as spells that would trigger the lockout, and it wasn't made clear until OOC discussions after the fact that Wave of Mutilation could be better described as copying the spells used rather than explicitly casting them. Likewise on whether Ultima can be channeled through Wave of Mutilation at all. All of those points have been mentioned, and on their own would have weighted this slightly in Ramza and Crowe's favor for me. If not for the Ultimas. Without Ecliptic Meteor, Nil still had Meteor or the actual Ultima spell he could have cast (again in the case of Ultima). Ramza shrugged off a spell that is explicitly stated to be unblockable and unable to have its damage mitigated, and seemed to be treating at least one of Crowe's single target buffs as if they had been aiding him, then ignored the fact that one of the things he thought was protecting him was a defensive limit break that inhibited his own Ultima as well. I'm going to be blunt here, I'm not sure if Ramza should have been standing after he took the spell point blank like that (especially after sacrificing some of his own HP for Crowe) but his falling over would have made for a poor end to a tournament thread. When coupled with Rock Throw and the other things going on, that post is enough to swing this category back to Beatrix and Nil, if just barely. [******Beatrix. Just Beatrix.******] Match Winner: ***** Nil/Beatrix ******
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